AW: Re: unresolved objects

Hi Soeren,
now the model loads when I use the Muscles.any file and excluded the others. But
the new problem is, that the inverse dynamic analysis doesn`t run anymore…
The task of the model is to hold his hand in the position it has from the
beginning. So I took the Gearstick-Model and set the way the gearstick has to be
moved to zero. Then I removed the driver who gave support to the hand in
y-direction. In the old version before it doesn´t load anymore, the kinematik
analysis could be solved. Should I upload it again?
Best regards, Maren

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Gesendet: Montag, den 31. Juli 2006, 12:31:55 Uhr
Betreff: [anyscript] Re: unresolved objects

                        Hi Maren

The file Muscles.any should be used, not the other one, i did not
see this problem, with my version. I think this should be corrected
in the file Arm3d/ShoulderArm. root.any

I think i was a bit too fast when i uploaded the file previously so
i have now updated it slightly again, though this is not related to
the issue you mention. Please try out the new version. The problem
was that the new file still used the simple muscle model.

After these corrections i hope you will be able to control the
muscle model from the main file.

Best regards
Soeren, AnyBody Support

— In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “Maren” <anystarter@ …> wrote:
>
> Hi Christian,
> with the new
>
> Brep/Aalborg/ BodyModels/ spinetwoarms/ bodymodel_ mus3e.any
>
> there are two include files where some muscles get defined
doubled.
> It´s
>
> #include “Muscle.any”
> #include “Muscles-forearm. any”
>
> which leads to the error message
>
> ERROR(SCR.PRS1) :
>
P:\personal\ p_maren\Anastra\ aktuell\Nachbau\ BRep\Aalborg\ Arm3D\Muscle
s-forearm.any( 8)
> : ‘Triceps_LH_ 1’ : Object already declared at :
>
>
P:\personal\ p_maren\Anastra\ aktuell\Nachbau\ BRep\Aalborg\ Arm3D\Muscle
.any(1179)
> : ‘Triceps_LH_ 1’
>
> Should I outcomment one of them and if yes, which one?
> Normally I switch in the main file from muscles to no muscles, but
> after working on the model in the in doesn´t load anymore and I´m
not
> shure, what I´ve done. This was because it still runs in the
> afternoon, but the next morning it wasn´t running anymore. The only
> possibility to make it run again was to change the include files
like
> I wrote in the first male.
> To leave the BRep like it is, what should I do now to make it run?
> With best regards, Maren
>
> — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “AnyBody Support” <support@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi Maren
> >
> > In principle it should not be needed to make changes in the BRep
to
> > shift the muscle model of an arm. This can be controlled from
main
> > file of the application, this is the right way to do this. You
can
> > also do it like you where trying to do but it is more
complicated.
> > The model structure is build with the intention that the Brep
should
> > in general be left “untouched” by the various application which
is
> > using it.
> >
> > If you include the line
> >
> >
#include “…\BRep\ Aalborg\BodyMode ls\SpineTwoArms\ BodyModel. an
> > y” from your main file
> >
> > you will automatically use a model with the three element hill
model
> > for the arm muscles, please remember it will need calibration.
> >
> > unfortunately there was a bug in the file
> > Brep/Aalborg/ BodyModels/ spinetwoarms/ bodymodel_ mus3e.any
> >
> > I have uploaded a new one to the file section of the group.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Soeren, AnyBody Support
> >
> >
> > — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “Maren” <anystarter@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Christian, I uploaded the model and the interesting part
of
> > the
> > > BRep in the “unresolved_ object” folder. If you change (lines
115-
> > 117,
> > > ShoulderArm. root.any)
> > >
> > > //This the parameters if a simple muscle model are being
used,
> > > contains only F0
> > > #include “Muscle-parameters- shoulder- simple.any”
> > > // #include “Muscle-parameters- shoulder- const.any”
> > >
> > > to
> > > //This the parameters if a simple muscle model are being
used,
> > > contains only F0
> > > // #include “Muscle-parameters- shoulder- simple.any”
> > > #include “Muscle-parameters- shoulder- const.any”
> > >
> > > the model will not load. What should I do to use the more
accurate
> > > muscle model?
> > > Best regards, Maren
> > >
> > > — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “Christian Gammelgaard”
<cgol03@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Maren
> > > >
> > > > Could you upload the model and we can have a look?
> > > >
> > > > Regards Christian
> > > >
> > > > — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “Maren” <anystarter@ >
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello again,
> > > > > I get the failure message when I try to load a file. But
the
> > > > > unresolved object is completely defined and the path is
ok.
> > What could
> > > > > be the problem? I know that I have to look if all “;” are
> > where they
> > > > > should be and if all brackets are closed. Which files
could
> > influence
> > > > > this error, are this all files which are included till the
> > position
> > > > > which is denoted behind the failure message? Where will I
have
> > to look
> > > > > and what kind of mistake could create such an error
message?
> > > > > With best regards, Maren
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Hi Soeren,
I think I build in a bug in the model, now it is really over-constrained:

ERROR(OBJ.MCH.KIN2) :
P:\personal\p_maren\Anastra\aktuell\Nachbau\ARep\Aalborg\Armmodell\GearStick.Mai
n.any(78) : ‘Study’ : Model is kinematically over-constrained : Position
analysis failed : 111 unsolvable constraint(s) found

I started to rebuild the model to find out, what my mistake was. Till now it
runs, but can you gave me a description how to reference to other folders? For
example if I like to add some Optional-Initialization Members to a folder in an
include file, but I want to define them in an other include file. Whatever I
tried till now, I´m not able to reference.
With best regards, Maren

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Von: AnyBody Support <support@anybodytech.com>
An: anyscript@yahoogroups.com
Gesendet: Montag, den 31. Juli 2006, 14:44:19 Uhr
Betreff: [anyscript] Re: unresolved objects

                        Hi Maren

I have uploaded a new file CalibraionSequence. any which should be
added to the folder BodyModels/SpineTwo Arms

This file should be included from the main file in the following way:

//This calibration sequence will calibrate the arms
AnyFolder &HumanFolderRef= Main.Model.HumanMod el; //This is the
reference to
//the folder which contains the human model

#include “…\BRep\ Aalborg\BodyMode ls\SpineTwoArms\ CalibrationSe
quence.any”

Before running the inverse analysis the calibration sequence should
be activated in order to calibrate the arms muscles, otherwise it
could be that some muscles have zero strength, and it might have
cause the problems you have seen.

I hope this solves the problem.

Best regards
Soeren, AnyBody Support

— In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, Maren Lühring <anystarter@ …>
wrote:
>
> Hi Soeren,
> now the model loads when I use the Muscles.any file and excluded
the others. But the new problem is, that the inverse dynamic
analysis doesn`t run anymore…
> The task of the model is to hold his hand in the position it has
from the beginning. So I took the Gearstick-Model and set the way
the gearstick has to be moved to zero. Then I removed the driver who
gave support to the hand in y-direction. In the old version before
it doesn´t load anymore, the kinematik analysis could be solved.
Should I upload it again?
> Best regards, Maren
>
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----
> Von: AnyBody Support <support@… >
> An: anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com
> Gesendet: Montag, den 31. Juli 2006, 12:31:55 Uhr
> Betreff: [anyscript] Re: unresolved objects
>
> Hi Maren
>
> The file Muscles.any should be used, not the other one, i did not
> see this problem, with my version. I think this should be
corrected
> in the file Arm3d/ShoulderArm. root.any
>
> I think i was a bit too fast when i uploaded the file previously
so
> i have now updated it slightly again, though this is not related
to
> the issue you mention. Please try out the new version. The
problem
> was that the new file still used the simple muscle model.
>
> After these corrections i hope you will be able to control the
> muscle model from the main file.
>
> Best regards
> Soeren, AnyBody Support
>
> — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “Maren” <anystarter@ …>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi Christian,
> > with the new
> >
> > Brep/Aalborg/ BodyModels/ spinetwoarms/ bodymodel_ mus3e.any
> >
> > there are two include files where some muscles get defined
> doubled.
> > It´s
> >
> > #include “Muscle.any”
> > #include “Muscles-forearm. any”
> >
> > which leads to the error message
> >
> > ERROR(SCR.PRS1) :
> >
> P:\personal\ p_maren\Anastra\ aktuell\Nachbau\ BRep\Aalborg
Arm3D\Muscle
> s-forearm.any( 8)
> > : ‘Triceps_LH_ 1’ : Object already declared at :
> >
> >
> P:\personal\ p_maren\Anastra\ aktuell\Nachbau\ BRep\Aalborg
Arm3D\Muscle
> .any(1179)
> > : ‘Triceps_LH_ 1’
> >
> > Should I outcomment one of them and if yes, which one?
> > Normally I switch in the main file from muscles to no muscles,
but
> > after working on the model in the in doesn´t load anymore and
I´m
> not
> > shure, what I´ve done. This was because it still runs in the
> > afternoon, but the next morning it wasn´t running anymore. The
only
> > possibility to make it run again was to change the include
files
> like
> > I wrote in the first male.
> > To leave the BRep like it is, what should I do now to make it
run?
> > With best regards, Maren
> >
> > — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “AnyBody Support” <support@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Maren
> > >
> > > In principle it should not be needed to make changes in the
BRep
> to
> > > shift the muscle model of an arm. This can be controlled from
> main
> > > file of the application, this is the right way to do this.
You
> can
> > > also do it like you where trying to do but it is more
> complicated.
> > > The model structure is build with the intention that the Brep
> should
> > > in general be left “untouched” by the various application
which
> is
> > > using it.
> > >
> > > If you include the line
> > >
> > >
> #include “…\BRep\ Aalborg\BodyMode ls\SpineTwoArms
BodyModel. an
> > > y” from your main file
> > >
> > > you will automatically use a model with the three element
hill
> model
> > > for the arm muscles, please remember it will need calibration.
> > >
> > > unfortunately there was a bug in the file
> > > Brep/Aalborg/ BodyModels/ spinetwoarms/ bodymodel_ mus3e.any
> > >
> > > I have uploaded a new one to the file section of the group.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Soeren, AnyBody Support
> > >
> > >
> > > — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “Maren” <anystarter@ >
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Christian, I uploaded the model and the interesting
part
> of
> > > the
> > > > BRep in the “unresolved_ object” folder. If you change
(lines
> 115-
> > > 117,
> > > > ShoulderArm. root.any)
> > > >
> > > > //This the parameters if a simple muscle model are being
> used,
> > > > contains only F0
> > > > #include “Muscle-parameters- shoulder- simple.any”
> > > > // #include “Muscle-parameters- shoulder- const.any”
> > > >
> > > > to
> > > > //This the parameters if a simple muscle model are being
> used,
> > > > contains only F0
> > > > // #include “Muscle-parameters- shoulder- simple.any”
> > > > #include “Muscle-parameters- shoulder- const.any”
> > > >
> > > > the model will not load. What should I do to use the more
> accurate
> > > > muscle model?
> > > > Best regards, Maren
> > > >
> > > > — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “Christian Gammelgaard”
> <cgol03@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Maren
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you upload the model and we can have a look?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards Christian
> > > > >
> > > > > — In anyscript@yahoogrou ps.com, “Maren” <anystarter@ >
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello again,
> > > > > > I get the failure message when I try to load a file.
But
> the
> > > > > > unresolved object is completely defined and the path is
> ok.
> > > What could
> > > > > > be the problem? I know that I have to look if all “;”
are
> > > where they
> > > > > > should be and if all brackets are closed. Which files
> could
> > > influence
> > > > > > this error, are this all files which are included till
the
> > > position
> > > > > > which is denoted behind the failure message? Where will
I
> have
> > > to look
> > > > > > and what kind of mistake could create such an error
> message?
> > > > > > With best regards, Maren
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

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